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Part 2 Chapter 5 So Be It! So Be It!

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e, had still not appeared. But he seemed almost to be forgotten, and when the elder entered the cell again, he found his guests engaged in eager conversation. Ivan and t

e should be, in the end, completely transformed into the Church and should become nothing else but a Church, rejecting every purpose incongruous with the aims of the Church. All this will not degrade it in any way or take from its honour and glory as a great State, nor from the glory of its rulers, but only turns it from a false, still pagan, and mistaken path to the true and rightful path, which alone leads to the eternal goal. This is why the author of the book On the Foundations of Church Jurisdiction would have judged correctly if, in seeking and laying down those foundations, he bad looked upon them as a temporary compromise inevitable in our sinful and imperfect days. But as soon as the author ventures to declare that the foundations which he predicates now, part of which Father Iosif just enumerated, are the permanent, essential, and eternal foundations, he is going directly against the Church and its sacred and eternal vocation. That is the gist of my article.”“That is, in brief,” Father Paissy began again, laying stress on each word, “according to certain theories only too clearly formulated in the nineteenth century, the Church ought to be transformed into the State, as though this would be an advance from a lower to a higher form, so as to disappear into it, making way for science, for the spirit of the age, and civilisation. And if the Church resists and is unwilling, some corner will be set apart for her in the State, and even that under control and this will be so everywhere in all modern European countries. But Russian hopes and conceptions demand not that the Church should pass as from a lower into a higher type into the State, but, on the contrary, that the State should end by being worthy to become only the Church and nothing else. So be it! So be it!”“Well, I confess you’ve reassured me somewhat,” Miusov said smiling, again crossing his legs. “So far as I understand, then, the realisation of such an ideal is infinitely remote, at the second coming of Christ. That’s as you please. It’s a beautiful Utopian dream of the abolition of war, diplomacy, banks, and so on — something after the fashion of socialism, indeed. But I imagined that it was all meant seriously, and that the Church might be now going to try criminals, and sentence them to beating, prison, and even death.”“But if there were none but the ecclesiastical court, the Church would not even now sentence a criminal to prison or to death. Crime and the way of regarding it would inevitably change, not all at once of course, but fairly soon,” Ivan replied calmly, without flinching.“Are you serious?” Miusov glanced keenly at him.“If everything became the Church, the Church would exclude all the criminal and disobedient, and would not cut off their heads,” Ivan went on. “I ask you, what would become of the excluded? He would be cut off then not only from men, as now, but from Christ. By his crime he would have transgressed not only against men but against the Church of Christ. This is so even now, of course, strictly speaking, but it is not clearly enunciated, and very, very often the criminal of to-day compromises with his conscience: ‘I steal,’ he says, ‘but I don’t go against the Church. I’m not an enemy of Christ.’ That’s what the criminal of to-day is continually saying to himself, but when the Church takes the place of the State it will be difficult for him, in opposition to the Church all over the world, to say: ‘All men are mistaken, all in error, all mankind are the false Church. I, a thief and murderer, am the only true Christian Church.’ It will be very difficult to say this to himself; it requires a rare combination of unusual circumstances. Now, on the other side, take the Church’s own view of crime: is it not bound to renounce the present almost pagan attitude, and to change from a mechanical cutting off of its tainted member for the preservation of society, as at present, into completely and honestly adopting the idea of the regeneration of the man, of his reformation and salvation?”“What do you mean? I fail to understand again,” Miusov interrupted. “Some sort of dream again. Something shapeless and even incomprehensible. What is excommunication? What sort of exclusion? I suspect you are simply amusing yourself, Ivan Fyodorovitch.”“Yes, but you know, in reality it is so now,” said the elder suddenly, and all turned to him at once. “If it were not for the Church of Christ there would be nothing to restrain the criminal from evil-doing, no real chastisement for it afterwards; none, that is, but the mechanical punishment spoken of just now, which in the majority of cases only embitters the heart; and not the real punishment, the only effectual one, the only deterrent and softening one, which lies in the recognition of sin by conscience.”“How is that, may one inquire?” asked Miusov, with lively curiosity.“Why,” began the elder, “all these sentences to exile with hard labour, and formerly with flogging also, reform no one, and what’s more, deter hardly a single criminal, and the number of crimes does not diminish but is continually on the increase. You must admit that. Consequently the security of society is not preserved, for, although the obnoxious member is mechanically cut off and sent far away out of sight, another criminal always comes to take his place at once, and often two of them. If anything does preserve society, even in our time, and does regenerate and transform the criminal, it is only the law of Christ speaking in his conscience. It is only by recognising his wrongdoing as a son of a Christian society — that is, of the Church — that he recognises his sin against society — that is, against the Church. So that it is only against the Church, and not against the State, that the criminal of to-day can recognise that he has sinned. If society, as a Church, had jurisdiction, then it would know when to bring back from exclusion and to reunite to itself. Now the Church having no real jurisdiction, but only the power of moral condemnation, withdraws of her own accord from punishing the criminal actively. She does not excommunicate him but simply persists in motherly exhortation of him. What is more, the Church even tries to preserve all Christian communion with the criminal. She admits him to church services, to the holy sacrament, gives him alms, and treats him more a captive than as a convict. And what would become of the criminal, O Lord, if even the Christian society — that is, the Church — were to reject him even as the civil law rejects him and cuts him off? What would become of him if the Church punished him with her excommunication as the direct consequence of the secular law? There could be no more terrible despair, at least for a Russian criminal, for Russian criminals still have faith. Though, who knows, perhaps then a fearful thing would happen, perhaps the despairing h

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The Brothers Karamazov
Part 1 Chapter 1
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Part 1 Chapter 3
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Part 1 Chapter 4
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Part 1 Chapter 5
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Part 2 Chapter 1
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Part 2 Chapter 2
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Part 2 Chapter 3
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Part 2 Chapter 4 A Lady of Little Faith
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Part 2 Chapter 5 So Be It! So Be It!
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Part 2 Chapter 6 Why Is Such a Man Alive
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Part 2 Chapter 7 A Young Man Bent on a Career
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Part 2 Chapter 8 The Scandalous Scene
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Part 3 Chapter 1 In the Servants' Quarters
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Part 3 Chapter 2 Lizaveta
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Part 3 Chapter 3 The Confession of a Passionate Heart - in
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Part 3 Chapter 4 The Confession of a Passionate Heart - In
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Part 3 Chapter 5 The Confession of a Passionate Heart - "
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Part 3 Chapter 6 Smerdyakov
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Part 3 Chapter 7 The Controversy
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Part 3 Chapter 8 Over the Brandy
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Part 3 Chapter 9 The Sensualists
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Part 3 Chapter 10 Both Together
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Part 3 Chapter 11 Another Reputation Ruined
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Part 4 Chapter 1 Father Ferapont
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Part 4 Chapter 2 At His Father's
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Part 4 Chapter 3 A Meeting with the Schoolboys
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Part 4 Chapter 4 At the Hohlakovs'
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Part 4 Chapter 5 A Laceration in the Drawing-Room
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Part 5 Chapter 6 A Laceration in the Cottage
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Part 4 Chapter 7 And in the Open Air
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Part 5 Chapter 1 The Engagement
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Part 5 Chapter 2 Smerdyakov with a Guitar
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Part 5 Chapter 3 The Brothers Make Friends
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Chapter 5 Chapter 4 Rebellion
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Part 5 Chapter 5 The Grand Inquisitor
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Part 5 Chapter 6 For Awhile a Very Obscure One
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Part 5 Chapter 7 "It's Always Worth While Speaking to a C
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Part 6 Chapter 1 Father Zossima and His Visitors
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Part 6 Chapter 2
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Part 6 Chapter 3
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Part 7 Chapter 1 The Breath of Corruption
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Part 7 Chapter 2 A Critical Moment
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Part 7 Chapter 3 An Onion
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Part 7 Chapter 4 Cana of Galilee
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Part 8 Chapter 1 Kuzma Samsonov
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Part 8 Chapter 2 Lyagavy
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Part 8 Chapter 3 Gold Mines
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Part 8 Chapter 4 In the Dark
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Part 8 Chapter 5 A Sudden Resolution
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Part 8 Chapter 6 "I Am Coming, Too!"
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Part 8 Chapter 7 The First and Rightful Lover
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Part 8 Chapter 8 Delirium
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Part 9 Chapter 1 The Beginning of Perhotin's Official Caree
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Part 9 Chapter 2 The Alarm
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Part 9 Chapter 3 The Sufferings of a Soul
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Part 9 Chapter 4 The Second Ordeal
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Part 9 Chapter 5 The Third Ordeal
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Part 9 Chapter 6 The Prosecutor Catches Mitya
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Part 9 Chapter 7 Mitya's Great Secret Received with Hisses
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Part 9 Chapter 8 The Evidences of the Witnesses. The Babe
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Part 9 Chapter 9 They Carry Mitya Away
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Part 10 Chapter 1 Kolya Krassotkin
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Part 10 Chapter 2 Children
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Part 10 Chapter 3 The Schoolboy
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Part 10 Chapter 4 The Lost Dog
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Part 10 Chapter 5 By Ilusha's Bedside
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Part 10 Chapter 6 Precocity
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Part 10 Chapter 7 Ilusha
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Part 11 Chapter 1 At Grushenka's
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Part 11 Chapter 2 The Injured Foot
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Part 11 Chapter 3 A Little Demon
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Part 11 Chapter 4 A Hymn and a Secret
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Part 11 Chapter 5 Not You, Not You!
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Part 11 Chapter 6 The First Interview with Smerdyakov
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Part 11 Chapter 7 The Second Visit to Smerdyakov
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Part 11 Chapter 8 The Third and Last Interview with Smerdyako
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Part 11 Chapter 9 The Devil. Ivan's Nightmare
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Part 11 Chapter 10 "It Was He Who Said That"
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Part 12 Chapter 1 The Fatal Day
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Part 12 Chapter 2 Dangerous Witnesses
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Part 12 Chapter 3 The Medical Experts and a Pound of Nuts
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Part 12 Chapter 4 Fortune Smiles on Mitya
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Part 12 Chapter 5 A Sudden Catastrophe
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Part 12 Chapter 6 The Prosecutor's Speech. Sketches of Char
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Part 12 Chapter 7 An Historical Survey
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Part 12 Chapter 8 A Treatise on Smerdyakov
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Part 12 Chapter 9 The Galloping Troika. The End of the Prosec
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Part 12 Chapter 10 The Speech for the Defence. An Argument th
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Chapter 12 Chapter 11 There Was No Money. There Was No Robber
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Part 12 Chapter 12 And There Was No Murder Either
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Part 12 Chapter 13 A Corrupter of Thought
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Part 12 Chapter 14 The Peasants Stand Firm
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Epilogue 1 Plans for Mitya's Escape
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Epilogue 2 For a Moment the Lie Becomes Truth
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Epilogue 3 Ilusha's Funeral. The Speech at the Stone
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